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VIDEO: Gordon Ross (MEng) presents mechanical evidence for the covert demolition of the World Trade Center
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g***@googlemail.com
2007-08-29 23:44:31 UTC
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Engineer Gordon Ross MEng. at the Indian YMCA, London on the 8th June
2007 analyses the destruction of the Twin Towers of the World Trade
Center on September 11th 2001.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4801566025292753615
Al Dykes
2007-08-30 00:09:36 UTC
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Post by g***@googlemail.com
Engineer Gordon Ross MEng. at the Indian YMCA, London on the 8th June
2007 analyses the destruction of the Twin Towers of the World Trade
Center on September 11th 2001.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4801566025292753615
http://newtonsbit.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html

Mr. Ross, your conclusions and sums and methods have been proven
wrong. In my previous letter I offered you the chance to fix and
update your calculations out of professional courtesy. Out of
respect for your abilities, I said it would be easy for you to do. I
had hoped that you would take a harder look at that issue, and take
another look at the rest of your paper, but you have chosen not to
do so. Your response was nothing more than, .fake but
accurate.. This is a disgusting manner for any engineer to
respond. Sir, retract your paper or fix your calculations.


Ross's response;

http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/RossResponsetoAnonymous.pdf


http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Article_2_Greening.pdf

I intend to show that Mr. Ross. article is incorrect in at least four important ways:

(i) An error in the calculation of the kinetic energy of the `
falling section after the first impact.

(ii) An over-estimation of the energy required to pulverize the
WTC 1 concrete.

(iii) The argument that the initial elastic deflection would
propagate 24 storeys below the impact floor.

(iv) The use of a safety factor of 4 in the calculation of the
elastic strain energy.
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Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
Me
2007-08-30 19:14:57 UTC
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Post by g***@googlemail.com
Engineer Gordon Ross MEng. at the Indian YMCA, London on the 8th June
2007 analyses the destruction of the Twin Towers of the World Trade
Center on September 11th 2001.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4801566025292753615
Just another MEng. who doesn't have ANY Proactical Knowledge of
Energetic Materials Science, or Building Demolition using
Energetic Materials, feeding the 9/11 Conspiricy Theory Crowd.

Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
a***@gmail.com
2007-09-04 17:08:49 UTC
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Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...

You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Al Dykes
2007-09-04 17:15:26 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
k


Nobody heard explosions loud enough and in appropriate sync with the
video of the collapse of each tower. . It's not on video sound,
either.

In the 1993 bombing (~1500 pounds TNT equiv), which was nowhere near
big enough to bring down a tower, was heard for blocks.
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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
Me
2007-09-04 20:48:25 UTC
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Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......

Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
2007-09-04 21:24:27 UTC
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Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
You poor deluded fool! They were beamed in there from alien spacecraft
using the Nazi moonbase leased from the New World Order.
--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
Remote Viewing classes in London
Richard
2007-09-04 23:40:00 UTC
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:24:27 -0600, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Post by Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
You poor deluded fool! They were beamed in there from alien spacecraft
using the Nazi moonbase leased from the New World Order.
Oh, I do like that one! :-) Now to set up a filter . . . .
--
Using Opera; the "Dog" died.
malibu
2007-09-04 21:40:59 UTC
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Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.

How does a collapse PHYSICALLY produce these?
Here's a picture
of a piece of the twin towers- how does a
gravitational collapse produce the temperatures
necessary to turn metal to liquid?
Loading Image...

John
Al Dykes
2007-09-04 22:34:49 UTC
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Post by malibu
Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
Even if true, so what?

Exactly where and when did Jones get those samples? Nobody knows.

AFAIK, Jones hasn't published the full lab report.

There has never been a test of teh sample done by anyone else.

Nobody saw or heard man-made explosives or thermite at WTC.
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a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
Me
2007-09-05 18:39:09 UTC
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Post by Al Dykes
Even if true, so what?
Exactly where and when did Jones get those samples? Nobody knows.
AFAIK, Jones hasn't published the full lab report.
There has never been a test of teh sample done by anyone else.
Nobody saw or heard man-made explosives or thermite at WTC.
Oh Lordy, is this DUFUS, quoting Dr. Steve Jones???? That guy couldn't
find his way out of a "Wet Paper Bag" He was fired from his Teaching
Position at BYU, because of his incompetant Science, and doesn't have
the FIRST CLUE, about what he is talking about.

Me now it all makes sense.... just another "WanaBe Quoter"
quoting someone who has no Expretiese in the Field.....

Eric Gisse
2007-09-04 22:47:33 UTC
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Post by malibu
Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
How does a collapse PHYSICALLY produce these?
Here's a picture
of a piece of the twin towers- how does a
gravitational collapse produce the temperatures
necessary to turn metal to liquid?http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/metalsphere.jpg
John
I find it amusing that you have to rely on dust as your "smoking gun"
because you can't find anything that stands up to scrutiny.
malibu
2007-09-05 01:22:29 UTC
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Post by Eric Gisse
Post by malibu
Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
How does a collapse PHYSICALLY produce these?
Here's a picture
of a piece of the twin towers- how does a
gravitational collapse produce the temperatures
necessary to turn metal to liquid?http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/metalsphere.jpg
John
I find it amusing that you have to rely on dust as your "smoking gun"
because you can't find anything that stands up to scrutiny.
Ri..i..iight, goose.
And fingerprints and DNA samples, too!!
Everything is SO insubstantial these days.
If you can't see it, it's just all interpretation of
images in the microscope, or graphs or data
or all that B.S.

I know YOUR science would never rely on
number-crunching that needs interpretation, would it now?

Of course, there are pictures of liquid metal
flowing down the building and reports
(stupid construction workers, probably) of hot
spots in the debris several thousand degrees hot,
but, hey, if there was
any evidence they wouldn't have shipped all the steel
to China post-haste!
They needed money, I guess.

John
Eric Gisse
2007-09-05 03:52:39 UTC
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Post by Eric Gisse
Post by malibu
Post by Me
Post by a***@gmail.com
Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
How does a collapse PHYSICALLY produce these?
Here's a picture
of a piece of the twin towers- how does a
gravitational collapse produce the temperatures
necessary to turn metal to liquid?http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/metalsphere.jpg
John
I find it amusing that you have to rely on dust as your "smoking gun"
because you can't find anything that stands up to scrutiny.
Ri..i..iight, goose.
And fingerprints and DNA samples, too!!
Fingerprints and DNA samples of what?
Post by malibu
Everything is SO insubstantial these days.
If you can't see it, it's just all interpretation of
images in the microscope, or graphs or data
or all that B.S.
I know YOUR science would never rely on
number-crunching that needs interpretation, would it now?
Of course, there are pictures of liquid metal
Pictures are nice. Samples are better.

Where are the samples?
Post by malibu
flowing down the building and reports
(stupid construction workers, probably) of hot
spots in the debris several thousand degrees hot,
How did they know it was "several thousand degrees" hot as opposed to
say, a thousand degrees? Without using any equipment and with no prior
experience, I'd like to hear how you would have someone tell the
difference.
Post by malibu
but, hey, if there was
any evidence they wouldn't have shipped all the steel
to China post-haste!
They needed money, I guess.
I've asked you this question before and you always seem to have
trouble answering:

How do you know it is steel?
Post by malibu
John
Al Dykes
2007-09-05 10:41:00 UTC
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Post by Me
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Why on earth would anyone notice?
Because if you had the slightest hint of an Idea, what it would take to
rig such a building, for such a Demolition, via Energetic Materials,
and then have an airplane fly into that same building, and destroy,
basically, 10 random, consequtive Floors, and all the DetCord you just
spent 3 months installing, "In Secret", with no one noticing all your
work, just how, on this Green Planet, could you expect to get all the
Cutting and Kick Charge, Timings correct for the resulting collapse.
Assuming, that you could get ALL those same Cutting and Kick Charges
installed, Weaken the Steel Support Structures sufficently, so the
Cutting and Kick Charges, will work as designed, and then get the
whole shot timed down to the 10's of Milliseconds, so as to achive
the demonstated results, WITH no evidence of, or residue, from ANY
NitroOrganic being able to be Forensically Detected on any debris
when tested, after the collapse. Modern Forensic Testing for
NitroOrganics can detect presents down in the .5 Parts/Billion.
Post by a***@gmail.com
2 Buildings EXPLODED that day, they didn't collapse... And what does
everybody do? Change their view on what a collapse is...
You see what you want to see! But don't go around telling how other
people don't notice anything when you can't even see 2 buildings
blowing up.
Your a DUFUS, and it is obvious to ANYONE with the least bit of
expertiese, in the use of Energtic Materials, that the Twin Towers,
did NOT EXPLODE. They collapsed, plain and simple. All the shouting,
handwaving, Special Inside Knowledge, Conspiricy Theories, Kooks, ect,
can't change the FACTS, and the FACTS, don't support any of the above
Bullshit, Quack, Junk Science, being spread by you and your ilk......
Me who at least wonders how all the MILES of DetCord, and
and Tons of Energetic Material could be put in a
pair of Buildings, occupied 24/7 for the previous
15 years, without anyone noticing..........
Tell me where all the metallic microspheroids that were
found to comprise 5% of a sample of dust two blocks away
came from.
How were they produced?
The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
How does a collapse PHYSICALLY produce these?
Here's a picture
of a piece of the twin towers- how does a
gravitational collapse produce the temperatures
necessary to turn metal to liquid?http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/metalsphere.jpg
John
I find it amusing that you have to rely on dust as your "smoking gun"
because you can't find anything that stands up to scrutiny.
Ri..i..iight, goose.
And fingerprints and DNA samples, too!!
Everything is SO insubstantial these days.
Chain of custody is important, too.

Exactly where did the dust come from, and when?
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The only time these occur is when metal
is liquified rapidly, such as in Thermate/mite
reactions.
Thermite is NOT an Explosive, (Energetic Material) and any suggestion
that Thermite was used during the Collapse of the Twin Towers is NOT
born out by the Forensic Evidence collected in the Debris Field. If
you had a CLUE about the Chemistry involved, you would KNOW, that the
Major ByProduct of that reaction Is Aluminum Oxide with traces of IRON,
in Specific Quantities, of which there was NONE found on any of the
Steel Support Structures, in the Debris Field. If Thermite was used to
cut ANY of the Support Steel Structures, where is the MASSIVE amounts of
Aluminum Oxide, with traces of IRON, in the Specific Quantities
required, that must be there?

Also, the Thermite would have to be used DIRECTLY against the Steel
Support Structures in order to be effective. Just WHEN was all this
supposed Thermite, (Tons) installed, and all the Concrete that surrounded
those Steel Support Structures, stripped away so that this Thermite
could be installed DIRECTLY against the Steel? How did they get rid
of all that concrete (again Tons) that MUST have been removed? Oh, Yea,
they Beamed it to the Romulan Homer Planet with a Transporter Beam every
night at midnite, so that NOONE would notice all the work being done.

Thirdly, If Thermite was used to do the Steel Support cutting, you would
still need the Energetic Materials to Kick the Steel Support Structures
once cut out of their Vertical Alignement. No Trace of ANY NitroOrganics
was EVER Found. So what moved the Steel out of alignment?

Fourthly, again, Just tell us ALL, just how ALL this was Timed Correctly,
for the resulting Collapse to have happened, when an Aircraft was flown
into, and destroyed 10 consequtive random floors of the Building, with
the resulting FIRES, involved, but that destruction could NOT also
destroy, all your carefull placed Detcord, and Pulse Tubing, that would
HAVE to inplace, and intact, for the resulting Collapse, to have taken
place, via Energetic Materials and your supposed Thermite, and the
resulting Collapse, started only from those same Destroyed Floors,
in BOTH Buildings?

Come on, Put Up, or Shut Up, the World of Stuctural, Mechanical, and
especially Energetic Materials Demolition, Engineers want to know?

Me who really gets tired of dealing with Conspiricy Idiots
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